Mohr: "Is there another rule (when throwing out the first) than don't bounce it?"
Ellis: " No, just get up there. You don't have to stand on the mound but, whatever distance you go to, just get it all the way to the catcher".
Mohr: "So you don't want me to go Carly Rae Jepsen and throw it three feet?"
Ellis: " No. I hope you can do better than that".